Last week, a jury found the NRA did not safeguard its charitable fund or those who raised concerns about how they were being spent on former CEO Wayne LaPierre’s lavish personal expenses. This week, we have one of those whistle-blowers on the show to give his view of the verdict as well as the group’s future.

Former NRA board member Judge Phillip Journey was among the eight insiders the jury said didn’t receive protection when he spoke out about the group’s mismanagement. He said the jury came to the correct conclusion. And he argued Judge Joel Cohen should appoint a monitor to make sure corruption is rooted out of the organization for good.

Journey said he was sympathetic toward criticism of New York Attorney General Letitia James’s (D.) political motivations. But he also said he had no choice in testifying at the trial, and the facts of the case were plainly against the NRA’s current and former leadership.

He argued drastic change is necessary for the NRA to survive and return to form. He explained the platform he and three other board candidates are running on in the current NRA election. Journey said he hopes the verdict and LaPierre’s resignation will convince many current board members to join the reform effort, but acknowledged he hasn’t gotten very far to this point and it’s likely to remain an uphill internal fight.

Plus, Contributing Writer Jake Fogleman and I dissect oral arguments in the Supreme Court’s bump stock ban case. We also go through the gun news of the week in our headlines section.

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